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Posted by: rob_maglio - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/29/06 at 20:16:12
Seems like we missed the weather by a week. It is mid 70's now and was 53 going over the pass. I bet the bite is in full swing this weekend. I didn't bring the boat, but wish I did. No wind either. The trout guys are having it good.
Posted by: Man_with_a_view - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 23:36:28
Thanks ! That handle has been replaced and it is now ready for action again. LOL......
Posted by: sarge - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 23:23:23
View Man,

I believe that what you say makes sense...

Only one comment - when prefishing, remember to reinforce your spinnerbait rod handles that are over 20 years old  Roll Eyes Tongue

Just kidding!

Chris
Posted by: bbrynteson - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 23:18:55
When I first started fishing with the club I went several tournaments without catching a fish.  I was starting from scratch and did not understand the subilties of presentations etc.  Then fishing from the back of Russ's boat I finally found my first Bass, a nice 1 1/2 lb Lg Mouth.  I kept repeating the same presentation and by golly I caught another one.  I ended up catching 3 that day, my first success in catching a bass under  tournament conditions.

The next tournament I tried the same technique, confident that I had "cracked" the code...wrong, skunked again.  As I sat around listening to others (more successful than I) it became clear to me that catching became more prevelant as ones knowledge of the types of baits and presentations increased as well as when and where to use them.

I have been studying our friend the bass intensely since that time and have been fortunate enough to have managed to become fairly consistent at catching a few in the tournaments, even managing to take home a little hardware.   

Pre-fishing is a game of exploring, trying to establish the most likely place to actually find active fish.  Once you are basically familiar with a body of water, the need for constant "pre-fishing" is debatable.  But the need to understand how the time of year, temps, weather conditions etc affect Micropterus salmoides or Micropterus dolomieu is what separates the more successful fishermen from the aspiring fishermen. 

Each time we are out and focused on the conditions, baits, presentations etc, we gain a little insight into our favorite sport.  This translates into increased success in catching bass under tournament conditions.  But eventually we hit a ceiling.  The question then becomes, what is keeping me from being more consistent? 

I personally keep a very detailed journal for each lake I fish.  I add information every time I fish, but also listen very carefully to others and their experiences, noting time of year, methods and presentations, water temperature, weather, and depth of presentations.  I read the journal frequently, noting anything that has changed.  I especially note whether dinks or smaller bass were being caught, or if fish over 3 lbs were being caught.  Because bigger fish congregate in certain areas consistently at different times of the year.

But back to the basic question:

Pre-fish:  Absolutely cause it is fun and you can learn something.

Will it guarantee you success:  Not necessarily, if you know the lake, be prepared to change up your style depending on the weather, time of year etc.  Have a plan for all conditions or you may become very frustrated.

I too am interested in hearing what others have to say about this particular subject. 

BillB



Posted by: Man_with_a_view - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 21:57:16
Ahh prefishing....... How much time does one spend to prefish? How much good does it do? I think Russ and I spent about 6 hours prefishing. I think we would have done as well had we not went out at all on Friday. I beleive prefishing is a big help if I am on strange water that I have never seen. But even then I would rather call it exploring rather than fishing. On new water I would spend time looking for the structure and / or cover that would be appropriate for that time of year under the expected weather conditions. I would not spend a great deal of time actually fishing. A fish is a fish. They have very similar behaviors where ever they are swimming. The things I look for are: What is the current food source? Is there currents or tides? Whats below the water I can't see? ( IE; bottom content, rocks, stumps, flats, ledges, Ect.)  If I am on water I am familiar with I don't give a whole lot of substance to pre-fishing. Especially if  the waters are closed the week before the event. It is not often the weather is stable that long and there is always something different that you have to adjust to one way or another over that stretch of time. If I go into an event beleiving that  "I have to do this or else"  then I usually get frustrated and don't make the change needed until it is to late. I don't know if all that is right but it is just an opinion and how "I" feel.  I would like to hear all of your thought on this subject.
Posted by: kholmes - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 20:22:01
My issue is not relative to whether I catch fish and place high in an event.  When I committ to spending time on the water, I am just looking to spend it relaxing on my boat with a good friend.  Frankly, at my age, I REALLY don't give a damn about catching.  I just want to enjoy a relaxing time on the water.  In retrospect and in my youth, I would have went after the smallies in my hole.  That would have required a run across some fairly rough water, though it likely would have been fishable.  I realized that, but made a choice to see more water in the dunes, but it did not seem to click Tongue.  I have resigned myself to the mid-ranks until such time as I can spend more of it on the water pre-fishing.  I guess I am just too "scared".  If only I was as brave and strong as others, then I could be the greatest WBC angler ever Shocked.  BTW, Rob, it is now WIND - 12 Kirk - 2.  Not much chance of a lead change from this keyboard. Wink
Posted by: basspro - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 19:23:08
Rob,

I hope you get better dude. Yea you can't let the wind ever get to you. You have to use it to your advantage. Thats what we did and it benefited us greatly. The other thing that many guys had mentioned to me was the fact that there were too many boats in one area. People were scared that they might not catch any fish.

Well thats exactly what we did we went behind 5-6 other boats in the same area and did something tottally different. Let the other guy feel the pressure.
Russ
Posted by: rob_maglio - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 05:36:55
Well for the last couple of years I've realized that someone will always catch te fish. I know wind seemed to be a problem for me and I have to learn to produce more bites at certain lakes in the wind. Usually wind means a great spinnerbug bite, but when that isn't working I have to learn to be efficient on other patterns. I let the wind get the best of me this time. Wind-1 Maglio-0. I'll get better. I must or drowned in the mid ranks. This one has been hard for me to swallow......especially with the time I put into the Potholes last year. Bring on July!
Posted by: kholmes - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 04:28:15
Mike,
Let us know when your buddy tells you that the wind has laid down.  Man, that makes fishing very difficult.  Been pretty calm here in Eburg.
Posted by: Hopsing - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/28/06 at 04:01:02
I fished Potholes last Thursday (20th) and we caught quite a few nice smallies against the Dam and the rocks between Goose Island and the dam.
This was only after searching for Largies in the dunes.
I only found a couple largies and they were real spooky.
The water is as high as I have ever seen it.
According to my buddy who lives in Moses Hole,
the wind has still been blowing, especially in the afternoon and early evening.

Mike
Posted by: emrich - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/27/06 at 19:02:53
Wow- 23lbs. Up in the dunes also? I know that if larry was with me i would've probably caught a big slimer!!
Posted by: larrys - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/27/06 at 18:11:01
D of F & W wants to knock down the numbers of sm allies at that size specified to increase the trophy size and cut down on overfeeding by the multitudes of smaller fish, saving the food for the others.
At least that is what they said at the winter meeting.
Posted by: WCCT - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/27/06 at 15:01:47
A guy right in front of me weighed in a 23+ lb. bag of smallies Shocked  Nice bag.
Posted by: emrich - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/27/06 at 14:17:06
Yeah we went up into the crab creek area, there were 2 boats that we talked to, one of which had one fish. We heard that there was a 6+ pound smallie caught on Sunday, though. I didn't hear where.
Posted by: simo3458 - Ex Member
Posted on: 04/27/06 at 13:52:55
The WDFW changed some of the regulations on Potholes starting Sunday. Smallmouth- daily limit 10 no minimum size of which 1 can be over 14", and they dont count against your daily limit for bass ( so essentially you could take up to 15 bass a day "10 smallies and 5 largies"). Walleye minimum size limit 12", and daily limit 8. You can hardly get a good meal off a 16" walleye, and as for the bass? I'm anxious to hear the reasoning for the bass!
 
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